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Showcase on Sale Fri April 13, Noon EDT

Read the blog post here.

UPDATE: Chris explains “Showcase Magic“:

RevolvingDork says:
The super-slowness ( worse than regular slowness ) is being caused by the showcase registration rush, which started at noon EST.

It should be out of our systems in a few minutes — it’s almost sold out.
Posted at 12:37 pm, April 13 2007 EST

From his lockdown post:

RevolvingDork says:
Showcase-specific lag is done with, now we’re jsut in regular lag territory: 5078920
Posted at 6:14 pm, April 13 2007 EST

No comment - feel free to post below.

10 Responses to “Showcase on Sale Fri April 13, Noon EDT”

  1. 1
    Elizabeth Says:

    From the blog:

    26. RevolvingDork | April 13th, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Everyone trying to buy showcases is slowing the system down, but we’re jsut about back to normal now.

    AARGH! We don’t even have enough capacity to handle planned internal events?

  2. 2
    dyno Says:

    I wish I understood more about these slowdowns:
    what’s actually happening with the servers,
    what’s going on behind the scenes (technically speaking),
    how much traffic is too much,
    if all functions tax the servers equally,
    if this is a hardware or code issue,
    what’s being done short term and long term to alleviate the problem,
    why we’re now at the point that even planned internal traffic causes as much of a problem as external shopper traffic…

  3. 3
    Tanis (mwahcreations) Says:

    not totally on topic, but I’ve had numerous family and friends tell me they often can’t even open my shop page, let alone the etsy mainpage. It just takes too long to load.

    :P

  4. 4
    Elizabeth Says:

    dyno in free verse

    (and of course I agree completely)

  5. 5
    Soap Says:

    AARGH! We don’t even have enough capacity to handle planned internal events?

    My reaction too.

    Dyno,
    I agree - I don’t want to micro-hover, but as a seller, I’d just like to know where the issues lies so I can PLAN. I distinctly remember the comment about etsy growing in pace with revenue. IMO, that’s not the case if the whole system flows like molasses in a snowstorm when it is hit by something which shouldn’t come as any surprise. Blaming “unexpected surges of traffic” may work the first time or the second time, but c’mon, we’re talking about the SELLERS who KNOW about Showcase trying to grab a slot.

    You know, if they were out in SV for a dog and pony show with VC (I suspect this is the case because I thought there was a mention of being on Sandhill), I hope they secured more cash if that’s the issue. Hire more people, get more equipment, whatever. Just stay ahead of the anticipated needs.

  6. 6
    Elizabeth Says:

    Soap - I wrote something similar about “unprecedented traffic” with documentation here:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5071139&page=11

  7. 7
    Maggie Says:

    It took all of my willpower not to try to keep re-loading this morning. It was slower than my mom’s computer used to be–and she had dial-up with a 1998 Gateway!

    Maybe they (Etsy) could get help from the guys at Fark.com or something–they seem to have a ton of traffic, and never have any problems. Their site’s not as pretty though…(I don’t know any technical info here, obviously).

  8. 8
    Soap Says:

    Elizabeth,

    Thanks - yes, exactly what I was thinking.

    Unpredictable - when there is an unplanned review/mention of the site.

    PREDICTABLE - growth curve, trajectory.

    ((( remainder of comments deleted ))))
    __________________________________________

    So we don’t have to flip back to that page (or worry about it loading or not), here is Elizabeth’s post, to which she refers above:

    emckinstry says:
    TheWoodenSpoon says:
    Even the biggest website experience un-anticipated slowdowns. It happens. A surge can upset the balance, even if they think they’re prepared for it.

    Hi WS -

    I guess my question is, how long can something be un-anticipated? Like being slashdotted - that’s unanticipated. Being featured in the NY Times - that can up your hits without warning.

    But if the growth is a curve, and not a spike, at some point, doesn’t the site need to plan according to the curve?

    You may not know this, but I believe this is the third time Etsy has made this same post (the first two are identical).

    The first was on March 27: http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5065538

    The second was on March 30:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5067679

    And this thread was started on April 3.

    There was an additional official post about speed issues on March 28:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5066052

    And back on Feb 25, there was an official announcement that “Starting tomorrow every Etsy engineer (and there are 7 of them) will be hunkered down in the same room for an entire week, with only one goal: site stability.”
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5043641

    On Feb 12, there was an official post about speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5036229

    On Feb 10, there was an official post about speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5034900

    On Jan 17, there was another official post about site speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5022847

    I could go on, but I’m boring myself. :^/

    It’s not that I’m trying to point out failure; I have no doubt that Etsy is working on the problems. What I wonder is two things:

    1) Why do they think that problems are due to “increasingly unprecedented traffic” when there have been plenty of precedents at this point; and

    2) Does Etsy have an understanding that they need to get ahead of the curve, and that the growth is only good as long as people can actually use the site?

    I’m almost sure the answer to 2) is yes, but I just don’t get that from the communications we see. And I worry that it’s not going to happen. And I really want Etsy to be at full speed, so it will continue to succeed.
    Posted at 2:03 pm, April 12 2007 EST

  9. 9
    Soap Says:

    So we don’t have to flip back to that page (or worry about it loading or not), here is Elizabeth’s post, to which she refers above:

    emckinstry says:
    TheWoodenSpoon says:
    Even the biggest website experience un-anticipated slowdowns. It happens. A surge can upset the balance, even if they think they’re prepared for it.

    Hi WS -

    I guess my question is, how long can something be un-anticipated? Like being slashdotted - that’s unanticipated. Being featured in the NY Times - that can up your hits without warning.

    But if the growth is a curve, and not a spike, at some point, doesn’t the site need to plan according to the curve?

    You may not know this, but I believe this is the third time Etsy has made this same post (the first two are identical).

    The first was on March 27: http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5065538

    The second was on March 30:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5067679

    And this thread was started on April 3.

    There was an additional official post about speed issues on March 28:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5066052

    And back on Feb 25, there was an official announcement that “Starting tomorrow every Etsy engineer (and there are 7 of them) will be hunkered down in the same room for an entire week, with only one goal: site stability.”
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5043641

    On Feb 12, there was an official post about speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5036229

    On Feb 10, there was an official post about speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5034900

    On Jan 17, there was another official post about site speed issues:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5022847

    I could go on, but I’m boring myself. :^/

    It’s not that I’m trying to point out failure; I have no doubt that Etsy is working on the problems. What I wonder is two things:

    1) Why do they think that problems are due to “increasingly unprecedented traffic” when there have been plenty of precedents at this point; and

    2) Does Etsy have an understanding that they need to get ahead of the curve, and that the growth is only good as long as people can actually use the site?

    I’m almost sure the answer to 2) is yes, but I just don’t get that from the communications we see. And I worry that it’s not going to happen. And I really want Etsy to be at full speed, so it will continue to succeed.
    Posted at 2:03 pm, April 12 2007 EST

  10. 10
    bombalurina Says:

    This issue is really a serious one. The frustration of knowing what sales are like for me when there IS traffic getting through versus not is especially bang-head-against-wall like. That said:

    I know someone in the embedded programming world who’s kind of a guru and over 50 - serious programmer with a lot of longevity. My brief chats with him about this issue have yielded his suspicion that it is a VC issue, that it’s kind of a 1-2 dance where you grow to the breaking point, then hopefully get an influx of capital then grow to that capacity. Kind of like koi in a tank. Really demanding koi who may eventually be whale sized. I could be completely mistaken, but this was the scenario painted for me one day the moment I said “yeah, it’s been totally floored by a digg hit before and lately it’s crawling, you just can’t get in…”

    I’m sure Etsy isn’t going to talk about what VC people and what angels they may be talking to or seeking out, but I’m on the assumption that that’s a lynchpin, FWIW.

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