There have been more instances of this problem, seemingly beyond Admin’s earlier explanation, with no input from Admin as of yet on these new instances, captured with screenshots. Please see UEN’s earlier post for the situation, plus the new updates.
EDIT: Admin’s many locks and responses are reposted in comments below.
EDIT (by starrydesigns): Read about the latest incident here.
EDIT: (by Soap) - latest update here - click.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
“I wonder if Admin realizes all of the other crafting forums that are literally laughing at Etsy.com?”
I have heard other people say this. Would you be willing to share some of these locations where Etsy is being discussed? I don’t really frequent any other crafting forums but I would love to check some out and see if there are any I like. Also, I would obviously love to see where Etsy registers on the radar with other crafters. If you would prefer you can send me a convo on Etsy. If you don’t want to share at all I understand. Thanks!
July 24th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
oops, sorry JB didn’t read your post above. :)
July 24th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
ok, update to this issue is here.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Well Haim does say there is a known issue now, something to do with the random data token. Random doesn’t always mean unique, so 2 users can have the same random token and then get their wires crossed.
This may account for the cases where people didn’t use GWA. I don’t think it accounts for all the cases, and the behavior of the bug, i.e. how much you can access, may depend on which variation of the bug you have. I now think it’s actually TWO bugs with similar symptoms.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…Etsy slowly keeps shooting themselves in the foot on a lot of things.
That BBB thing is good knowledge to have should it become productive to utilize it.
And, as far as EMC goes—I can’t believe that Admin should have the audacity to outright censor people as far as their participation on the forums AFTER their punishment has already been served. It’s one thing to try to redirect someone to be “nicer” or whatever–but to (I’m assuming) come out and state what one can and cannot speak about on the forums is not only alarming but exceedingly childish.
Etsy Admin isn’t taking everyone’s reports of this “bug” seriously—RD has said a couple of times on the forums that there’s “no known issue” when locking threads about this. It’s a serious breach of privacy, and can cause further damage down the road…people can see personal emails, home addresses, personal business discussions through convos, as well as alter the paypal email if they should choose so that any money is directed into THEIR account.
I wonder if Admin realizes all of the other crafting forums that are literally laughing at Etsy.com?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5167747
Haim has some updates on current bugs, including this one
- The cookie/login issue
We’ve found a bug in how we generate random data that could possibly result in login “collisions”. It’s our theory that user A would login and get his random data token. Sometime thereafter user B would generate the exact same random data thus grabbing user A’s session. We’ve got a short term fix in the works that will highly decrease the chances of that happening. It’s our goal to have that fix pushed out early Wednesday AM EST. In addition we’re working on a larger long term fix to better handle cookies in general.
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It’s very interesting.
I’m concerned it doesn’t include anything about blocking web accelerators from caching private pages, since GWA was definitely a factor in at least *some* of the cases.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
I want to make it clear I have no problem with Stella. She seems to be a smart, intelligent, reasonable and well spoken person. I’m sure she is just doing her job. My only problem is that because she has these wonderful qualities she is being used for the reasons and in the ways I stated above.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
JB, once again you have clearly articulated some excellent points! Thanks!